tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post1707604677842316065..comments2007-09-23T17:13:12.895-04:00Les Puryearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07212653606124739664lespuryear@hotmail.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-31602813782868451502007-09-23T17:13:00.000-04:002007-09-23T17:13:00.000-04:00Les,<BR/><BR/>I wish I was with Steve. I don't consider myself an SBC Blogger anymore. I'm a follower of Christ who will worship with any follower of Christ no matter their denomination.Kevin Busseyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04348284292255381355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-76876930273338097922007-09-22T16:24:00.000-04:002007-09-22T16:24:00.000-04:00The fact that you didn't mention me or my blog absolutely delights my heart. Thanks. You made my day.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.stevekmccoy.com/" REL="nofollow">Steve</A>Stevehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06599232012504840601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-13638304874250988032007-09-22T12:09:00.000-04:002007-09-22T12:09:00.000-04:00Hey, Les, can I modify my category as <B>MOR-AOTR</B> for <I>middle of the road - all over the road</I>? LOL :)Quinn Hookshttp://sbcghostrecon.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-22743997857008483532007-09-22T00:00:00.000-04:002007-09-22T00:00:00.000-04:00Todd, <BR/><BR/>Thanks for your support. There's plenty about Southern Baptists in blogs. Do a search on "southern baptists" in Google's blog search. You'll find more than you have time to read. :)<BR/><BR/>LesLes Puryearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07212653606124739664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-20616796310256131752007-09-21T23:43:00.000-04:002007-09-21T23:43:00.000-04:00Les,<BR/><BR/>I guess my first reply got lost in cyber-space. <BR/><BR/>I do not mind an attempt to distinguish bloggers. I in no way think you were attempting to pigeon-hole anyone but offering a fairly descriptive way to filter personal blogs.<BR/><BR/>That being said, I cannot find a post about the SBC save the press release concerning the Outpost dated June, 27.<BR/><BR/>I think one may have to go back to '06 to find much.<BR/><BR/>I like the Big Daddy Weave category. Currently I am on the edge of the inside while Big Daddy is on the edge looking in.Toddhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12809906907571126008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-24178842268520380472007-09-20T23:36:00.000-04:002007-09-20T23:36:00.000-04:00CB,<BR/><BR/>You're weird. Have I told you that lately? See, I'm just trying to pick a fight like we talked about the other day. :)<BR/><BR/>Art,<BR/><BR/>I didn't take Les' comments toward those he put in the Reformer's group in a negative light. I just think that some have had personal information about personalities that are behind a lot of this mess and they felt comfortable in writing about that. <BR/><BR/>Absent the first hand information that many in that group have received, you, Marty, and quite a few others would probably be seen differently. People have grinded an axe against you because they have not seen what you have seen and do not know that you speak with knowledge instead of just by spreading rumor and innuendo. Those of us who do not have that first hand knowledge are better served by just sticking with the issues and staying away from personalities altogether. At least that is how I have seen the difference.Alan Crossdownshoredrift.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-89566651502398584832007-09-20T23:01:00.000-04:002007-09-20T23:01:00.000-04:00Art,<BR/><BR/>You are not the middle. You are not the edge. You are not the other edge. <BR/><BR/>You are the never ending constant protagonist/antagonist of Blog Town. <BR/><BR/>You are also the sometimes "Hippie picture taker" that takes pictures of rain falling off of roofs and other strange, reflective, metaphysical, introspective, existential, thought provoking "stuff" that makes us all want to cry and write home to our Mommas and "study war no mo, no mo" and make commitments to do better than we have in the past and junk like that:-)That is the role you play here, Mr Rogers.<BR/><BR/>cb<BR/><BR/>cbCB Scotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-61331586944454871522007-09-20T22:15:00.001-04:002007-09-20T22:15:00.001-04:00<I>Tis nice to know being on an apologetics blog keeps me off these groups.<BR/><BR/>With that, I am...<BR/><BR/>Batman! :D</I><BR/><BR/>NO! Chadwick Ivester is Batman! See, I have the proof!<BR/>http://chadwickivester.wordpress.com/2007/05/24/bat-man-says-wade-burleson-please-stop-diggin/Quinn Hookshttp://sbcghostrecon.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-39156721206179414402007-09-20T22:15:00.000-04:002007-09-20T22:15:00.000-04:00CB, <BR/><BR/>I have eaten and still eat biscuits but I've never heard them described as "cathead" biscuits. And I've lived in Texas and Alabama too. :)<BR/><BR/>BTW, I hate french toast. <BR/><BR/>Art, <BR/><BR/>Thanks for your observations. I greatly respect your opinion. <BR/><BR/>LesLes Puryearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07212653606124739664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-68606994277050360182007-09-20T22:12:00.000-04:002007-09-20T22:12:00.000-04:00<I>How would you classify yourself? Establishment, reformer or MOR?</I><BR/>Hmmmm, interesting question. I think I best fit in as an <B>MOR</B> according to the definitions given. :)Quinn Hookshttp://sbcghostrecon.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-83183106831818240112007-09-20T22:04:00.000-04:002007-09-20T22:04:00.000-04:00Les,<BR/><BR/>Definitely not mad, but not sure I agree.<BR/><BR/>I think every group considers itself to be the "middle." Also, it seems, and forgive me for being blunt, that you have set the Impact crew as the only ones who pray over each issue and are not able to be predicted as to their leanings.<BR/><BR/>I will say that I am sure that you make up your minds according to your convictions, but I would hasten to say that I do that as well.<BR/><BR/>Case in point: The Klouda lawsuit. If you will recall, though I posted the relevant information, I did not agree that she should have sued the Seminary or Dr. P. Paul Littleton also said that.<BR/><BR/>Your description of "us" as similarly personality driven (equal and opposite to the Establishment crowd) can be an accurate description of at least one of us :) but I got into this over the IMB and it is still my chief concern. Narrowing parameters is my overall issue.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of personalities, I have had NUMEROUS healthy, kind and genuine exchanges with most folks on the other side with rare exception. Also, when sin gets the best of me, you know that I tend to confess and repent in the middle of the exchange or in separate posts.<BR/><BR/>All of this is not to say that I am all that holy, but that the way you describe "middle of the road" folks does sound "holier than thou."<BR/><BR/>Consider that those in that group are generally grateful, and those in the others are generally not.<BR/><BR/>Please let me clarify before I go.<BR/><BR/>I am not mad and I don't reject that I am a reformer. I am. I am not, however, driven by personality and I have prayed diligently over the issues and I make up my own mind on them. I have worked hard to be fair and congenial.<BR/><BR/>I just think that the descriptions are a little too glowing for the "middle" and too "edgy" for the others.<BR/><BR/>And I did read that you think we are all trying to be as godly as we are able and are sincere. This is not about that.Arthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00058253532158878707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-38566298045631630652007-09-20T17:22:00.000-04:002007-09-20T17:22:00.000-04:00Vol,<BR/><BR/>We must be kin. I have eaten 81/2 maybe 9 million cathead bisquits.<BR/><BR/>Les has too. He just wants to act like he only eats french toast since he's gone to Hollywood and become a star.:-)<BR/><BR/>cbCB Scotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-46431688775331018282007-09-20T13:58:00.000-04:002007-09-20T13:58:00.000-04:00Guy, <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the links to the missionary blogs. Most of them I wasn't aware of. <BR/><BR/>LesLes Puryearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07212653606124739664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-35520324734182685542007-09-20T13:40:00.000-04:002007-09-20T13:40:00.000-04:00Interesting post, Les. One sure way to get a lot of people commenting is to talk about them - all of them! <BR/><BR/>From my experience in the blogosphere since December 2005, I think that you are right on in your analysis. I have definitely leaned toward the "reform" side on many of the issues, but I agree with putting me in the "middle of the road" camp, although with Tom Ascol, I wish there was a better name! I find myself there because I am not interested in dealing with personalities as much as I am in dealing with theology and issues. <BR/><BR/>I hate dividing into camps anyway. Dealing with individual issues is complicated, but it does force each of us to treat one another as brothers and think through things.Alan Crossdownshoredrift.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-49181685616899350972007-09-20T10:56:00.000-04:002007-09-20T10:56:00.000-04:00les,<BR/><BR/>cathead bisquits are very large bisquits.....as big as a cat's head. :)<BR/><BR/>davidvolfan007http://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-1083593226177312452007-09-20T10:39:00.000-04:002007-09-20T10:39:00.000-04:00Interesting post! I would add my "second" to Strider's comment about missionary blogs. Missions is our focus as S. Baptists, not controversy. It is true that controversy gets us more readers (I discovered this early on in my own blogging) but choose to try and share what God is doing in our context, as well as relevant missiological issues that impact our work.<BR/><BR/>I would add to the SBC "Missionary Blogs" who <STRONG>regularly post</STRONG><A HREF="http://talesfrommiddleearth.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Strider</A> <A HREF="http://rtbm.typepad.com" REL="nofollow"> Ken Sorrell</A>, <A HREF="http://swisa.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Kevin : SWISA</A>, <A HREF="http://sendingchurch.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Tim Patterson</A>, <A HREF="http://missionsmisunderstood.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">Missions Misunderstood</A>, <A HREF="http://loveeachstone.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">David Rogers</A>(also blogs missions themes besides SBC issues), <A HREF="http://charisshalom.fjministries.com" REL="nofollow">Bryan Riley</A> (not a SBC IMBer, but does missions as a SBCer--I think!), and <A HREF="http://amanda47.blogs.com/following_an_unknown_path" REL="nofollow">Amanda Parmley</A>.GuyMusehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17751691713410311094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-10549745966048206612007-09-20T10:09:00.000-04:002007-09-20T10:09:00.000-04:00Gene, <BR/><BR/>Tribalogue is a collaborative blog, and I didn't include them. I enjoy reading it and do so daily. <BR/><BR/>Strider, <BR/><BR/>You're right about my leaving off the missionary blogs. I really do appreciate them. <BR/><BR/>Bob, <BR/><BR/>I wish it was so. <BR/><BR/>CB, <BR/><BR/>You are the "rebel" of the SBC. <BR/><BR/>David, <BR/><BR/>Your response seems to validate my point. <BR/><BR/>BTW, what are "cathead biscuits"?<BR/><BR/>LesLes Puryearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07212653606124739664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-55345950931233019322007-09-20T10:03:00.001-04:002007-09-20T10:03:00.001-04:00Les:<BR/><BR/>Thanks for this ambitious effort! I have never made a "who's who" list before, but I have been named on several "who's he?" ones. <BR/><BR/>My only complaint is the designation "middle-of-the-road." Couldn't you have chosen a more accurate description like "perfectly balanced and fair" or "always right?" :-)<BR/><BR/>Blessings,<BR/>tomTomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01055905333350570428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-58990830320255109672007-09-20T10:03:00.000-04:002007-09-20T10:03:00.000-04:00les,<BR/><BR/>very interesting to say the least. although, i have to take you to task about my position. for one thing, i was shocked to learn that i was leaning towards arminianism. i know i'm not as calvinistic as you are, so i guess from your perspective i do lean that way. but, arminian i am not. not that there's anything wrong with being an arminian!<BR/><BR/>also, i dont really focus more on personalities than issues. i didnt think i did anyway. i'm not for defending the powers that be at any cost. if dr. patterson, or dr. mohler, or dr. akin, or richard land, or any leader was advocating liberal views...i would be against them and be for change. in fact, i was for change back in the cr. i fought for change. i'm in the middle of the same deal in tn at this time. although, i always try to be nice and sweet about it. :)<BR/><BR/>in other words, i'm for these men in charge because they are conservative, bible believing men who are leading the sbc the way i think it should be done. it's not about them as a personality, or just because they're leaders, it's about what they stand for...what they believe.<BR/><BR/>i have defended dr. patterson in the past because i feel that some hate him and have a personal vendetta against him, and they look upon him as a symbol of the cr, or as a symbol of conservatism, and they want to bring him down for that reason. i dont like that. <BR/><BR/>well, bro., you've stirred up some good conversation here, and i wish that you'd served some hot, cathead bisquits and sausage gravy with this. that'd made it just a little bit better.<BR/><BR/>love ya, <BR/><BR/>davidvolfan007http://www.blogger.com/profile/15635929001030697924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-69758258044736778542007-09-20T08:51:00.000-04:002007-09-20T08:51:00.000-04:00Les,<BR/><BR/>I am the "Black Flag" blogger. I raid both the Reformation and Establishment blogs. I just go where there is a fight,'cause I like it. :-) :-)<BR/><BR/>cbCB Scotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02230652312241919771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-52853748527206198322007-09-20T08:46:00.000-04:002007-09-20T08:46:00.000-04:00About the only thing with which I would disagree (sort of) is the following statement, which referred to "middle-of-the-roaders".<BR/><BR/>"These are those who evaluate each issue on its own merit in light of God's Word."<BR/><BR/>I hope that statement is true of me, and I really don't want to say it's not true of the "establishment" folks, either.Bob Clevelandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06110395869562328309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-88886132052214440922007-09-20T04:31:00.000-04:002007-09-20T04:31:00.000-04:00Hey, you left off my favorite category- Missionary Bloggers! Guy Muse, Tim Patterson, Ken Sorrel, and a few others are the only one's talking about anything important in SB life! Just kidding, well mostly kidding, at least I have a smile on my face when I wrote it, ok, it was a little bitter but in a loving sort of way, oh, I better quit while I am behind.Striderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07347436154893544535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-62206059080212397212007-09-20T00:28:00.000-04:002007-09-20T00:28:00.000-04:00'Tis nice to know being on an apologetics blog keeps me off these groups.<BR/><BR/>With that, I am...<BR/><BR/>Batman! :DGeneMBridgeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10504383610477532374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-62041289134924355282007-09-19T23:50:00.000-04:002007-09-19T23:50:00.000-04:00No Les, you did not. It's just my thoughts only.Debbie Kaufmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17748664558802779885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-478824356435862953.post-53089863093099371672007-09-19T23:19:00.000-04:002007-09-19T23:19:00.000-04:00Quinn, <BR/><BR/>I thought about you however, I don't have a good perspective on your blog so I didn't include you. <BR/><BR/>How would you classify yourself? Establishment, reformer or MOR?<BR/><BR/>LesLes Puryearhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07212653606124739664noreply@blogger.com